Freedom

Not having to do anything is freedom
No expectation or destination is freedom
free of relationship pressure is freedom
Nowhere to walk to is freedom
I have arrived is freedom
this is it! This is the destination
we don't expect for something we dont have yet
we should expect what we already have
want what we have and have what we want
So called life is a background
I want to be happy, to be alone, in the mind
just by myself
leave the world behind
the body, people, the world, everything behind
just alone in the mind...

orang makan bukan karna perut yang lapar, tapi hati yang lapar.

Prayer II

How hard it is to yield to You
I have been relying on the world for too long
I stubbornly am carrying all my worries and fear and won't let go
See how little my faith is
Afraid to let go of holding on to this world
and take your Hand
Let me escape and come to your place
for rest and being with You
pull my hand O Lord
into your embrace
and don't let go
Let me be addicted to you
because you are perfect health and wealth
beyond material and biological
You are home-y
home is where the heart is
You are not in my heart, but let me be in Your heart. Amen.

A Prayer

Prayer is communication
We communicate to build relationship
Communication is the mean not the end
When I pray, I mostly focus on the mean and it's dry like a dessert
because I don't pay attention to the relationship
Like relationship with good friends we have
we may feel good by bringing their memory to mind
by "invoking" their name alone suffice
and we want to stay with that thought because we cherish the relationship with the person
that's what we should do when we pray
Invoking the name of the beloved residents of Heaven
and we are building relationship slowly with them
In a way, we are building relationship with the prayer itself
she is a friend in need is a friend in deed
the more you need the faster and closer she will come
it's a flowing brook, a mountain view, it's God's embrace
It requires no explaination like friendship requires none
it's a relationship, the most intimate one, more intimate than any interpersonal one
where she can touch our deepest fear and secret and we are not afraid
someday, you will be like her and she will become you
Yes, we may ask favors like a child can ask favors
But, let's not make it to be the only thing we do like a child who comes to his parents only when he needs something is in a spoiled relationship
He knows our needs and we also need his help
However,  we must have the relationship for us to communicate and share the love
The strength of the relationship is determined by the trust and communication between
the stronger the relationship, the stronger the trust and communication and vice versa...

Batin

Jagalah suasana batin ada tetap menyenangkan
karna batin adalah emosi
apa pun persepsi dan psikologi yang anda alami
mereka bukanlah batin anda
kalau anda menjaga batin anda terang dan menyenangkan
anda tidak terbawa oleh persepsi dan psikologi anda
gunakan penderitaan untuk menciptakan batin yang tenang dan menyenangkan
kebosanan dan excitement memancing batin anda
kebosanan menarik turun terus mencari escape
kalau excitement adalah escapenya lalu ditarik turun
dalam meditasi atau hidup, carilah dulu batin yang tenang dan menyenangkan
sadarilah penderitaan, hidup, sakit, tua, mati, badan, pikiran, dunia, ilusi, orang, pekerjaan, relationship
gunakan ini utk propel anda menuju batin yang tenang dan menyenangkan
jagalah batin ini setiap saat, tidak ada lagi yang lebih penting dan mudah daripada melatih ini
inilah kebebasan...

Attachment

What is falling in love but attachment
what is attachment but expectation of our desires being met
expectation of being fed, being loved, and being treated nicely
this is the thorn of the rose
when our "need" is not met

to Love is a different matter
is it pure nurtural? or is it part of the to be loved/to love cycle?
the privilage only for the free

our perception is appearance based
everything is what it looks like, sounds like, feels like, taste like, and smell like
influenced by past experience and social values
our passive karma
our senses is our active karma

Biological dimension is sensoric based
Perception is Appearance based
Neuro Psychology is attachment based

free will

I will use the difference between a person and environment and Karma to explain what I believe about this topic. I will give the short version.
A person vs Environment: Human being is the only creature that is not 100% reactive to the environment (like plants) or to the perception of their environment (like animals). Human being has developed a neuro psychological bubble that separates human from its environment. This neuro psychological bubble gives human a DELAYED reaction to environment. The question is not if this is free will. The question is how free is this free will. First, our ability to delay a reaction is affected by our biology and emotions. I think our plasticity of our "free will" depends a lot on our sense of pleasure."it is easy to be nice when you are happy" kind of thing. I like and will use @Lucia's term "Skills" in how easy this skills deteriorate as our sense of pleasure dips. Craving is a good example of this. Second, this ability to delay a reaction gives us little bit of control of our environment. The key word is little bit. We can't control weather but we can manage an emergency measure to deal with it. However, we mostly still don't control our environment. We rely highly on "Trust" in our environment, man made or nature made. I drive my car everybody thinking everybody knows how to drive and is in the good condition to drive. There are thousands of virus in the air and in our body that can defeat our immune system.

relationship and perception

cognitive disonance happen when there is a conflict between what we see and we hear
people sometimes must prove behaviorally what they say
they sometimes must prove against their reputation and their behavior
because relationship goes thru boundaries and get tested
They sometimes must convince us that they are not what we think they are
for example, public speakers could have a reputation of trying to sell something
they must convince me that they are genuine
that they are not trying to con me
my shame detector is working
their behavior may betray them or they can't play it well
it's a game of cons, who can convince the trust

Consciousness

If I have a healthy vision and I wear a corrective glasses
I see blurred but I tell people that I can see 20/20
who can doubt me? because they can't see what I see
they don't know my vision so they don't know what I see wearing the glasses
They can't prove either way
the experience is for mine only
I can't remove it, save it, record it, or show it
it's unique and temporal, it is FRACTAL
this is qualia
it's a combination between environment (light), senses, and nervous system
producing the experience
it's one in a lifetime probability
like a probability of a dice coming up with a one
but other than 6 probability and infinite number of probabilities (the spin, the friction of table, etc)
experience is produced from infinite factors that meet randomly to produce the experience.
can;t be reproduced not even by me
it's fleeting
the interaction of body and environment
it's like seeing once in a lifetime phenomenon
it comes and goes
that nobody else can see
he can report it but he can't show it to others
he can verbalize it but he can't record it
the blurred vision experience
is his blurred vision experience

TV INTERNAL HARDWARE DOESN'T MAKE THE PROGRAM
THE PROGRAM COMES FROM OUTSIDE
WITHOUT THE PROGRAMS, IT'S BLACK AND WHITE DOTS
it has potential, such as HDTV DISPLAYS PICTURE DIFFERENTLY THAN BLACK AND WHITE
BRAIN GIVES POTENTIAL NOT CONSCIOUSNESS

SELF - The need to compensate for the sense of loss produced by the acquisition of a distinct identity

CULTURAL HUMANITY BUBBLE
Pre cultural humanity - relationship with environment
biological humanity - is the environment
physical humanity - quantum relationship

DUE TO OUT OF TOUCH WITH BODY AND ENVIRONMENT, BODY/BIOLOGY APPEARS AS SELF AND ENVIRONMENT APPEARS AS NEURO/PERCEPTION IN THE MIND

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shame based is external, guilt based is internal motivation
prison, correctional system

teleology and Teleology

Suffering

Suffering is indeed the test of nature
where a person's strength is not in the offense but on the defense
how strong he can take a hit and how he can bear the pain
how he can tame his emotion by his physical and mental stamina
everybody can offend and hit, but not many can take a hit

the development of self began long time ago with a split
prior, we have a direct relationship with environment
we are at the mercy of our environment and try to adapt to the environment
then, we learn to leave the relationship with the environment
by developing cognition
by supposing/simulating/learning/practicing our skills before meeting the real environment
our behavior becomes delayed reaction and planned
we develop the "Self Me"
the relationship with the "SM" is the self psychology
the loop between feeling and thoughts due to attachment to this Self
It is our defense mechanism for our social environment
This strategy gives PRESENT advantage over PAST problems (living in the wild)
however, we are still in transition to deal with present problems
living in civilized and safe society, we becomes bored and overemote
humanity gives us the skills to deal with the worst, not the average
we create own drama and stimulation out of boredom

Self is our overmeet needs/over adaptive skills
that enables us to leave the relationship with environment
narcissism is oversocial needs
even suffering is overexpectation for needs due to attachment
we grab the "self" as if we are grabbing the body when we are stress
we are living in imaginary world/simulation word where self represents body and mind is the environment
introvert regulate self to regulate environment
extrovert regulate environment to regulate self

we leave the relationship with nature by developing competence or skills
compare yourself driving with and without skills
where competence is the ability to regulate self and environment
the first step is regulating the car then the road.

Feeling and cognition has the opposite relationship with the senses and perception
when one is on, the other is off
the senses and perception is our relationship with nature
feeling and cognition is our overadaptive skills that leaves the relationship with nature...

mengejar uang

jangan mengejar uang, do something where money chase you

Menjaga perasaan orang

Ada orang yang menjaga perasaan sendiri dari terluka/please oneself
ada orang yang menjaga perasaan orang lain dari terluka/please others
orang yang please oneself can sacrifice others
orang yang please others can sacrifice self
to regulate self emotion by controlling others emotions
where orang yg please oneself can control others behavior to regulate self

regulating others' feeling and thinking rather than action and body
like we regulate our own feeling and thinking rather than action and body

Positive negative attraction

In a group, positive environment will attract negatives
and negative environment will attract positives
Is this what happens in our mind?
In a positive mind environment, a person is conscious of his problems
where in negative mind environment, a person is only conscious of his ideal pretend self

The Illusion of Individuality

I favor individuality over group

I am in the rebellion stage

for this is not the end, just the mean

for individuality is an illusion

where human overdevelop to master the universe

the tower of Bable to reach God

it is not just the environment, we are talking about social environment

we are talking about intra species conflict and competition

we have been shielded from nature

this is also the problem of left over energy of emotion

"I am more important than the group" is the question.
is this one of the phases?
the oversubtance self me.

on one hand, there is a one that perceive (self me) and the perceive oned (other than me)
there is also individual and group
when we are born, it start with group (dominant culture), than individuation process
rebellion agains the culture "me preference" is more important than "the group preference"

the problem is the self me that perceives
to be free from the others than me

IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CONFLICT OR NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE WITH A PERSON, YOU DON'T KNOW A PERSON.

Cultural Self

Cultural self is our make up, the dress that we wear as told by our culture
the social desirable as culture dependent
behind every cultural self, the group self, hide the individual self
for nature always favor the group than individual
the individual is sacrificed, repressed, and belittled
the liberation of the individual is the freedom,
the happiness

recovery process involved releasing the self imprisoned by the culture
the individuation process and the cultural identity process work hand in hand
without attacking the culture and sacrificing the self
to live in peace for both of them
suffering is our anger and frustration of our incarceration
we want to be free but we don't know how
the process involve minimizing the culture and maximizing the individual
we are repressed behind social self with our desire to be liked
the attachment for belongingness keep others more important than what they really are
they are not important
they may not like to hear it but it's true
fear of dissapointing others, anxiety to please
to win a social trophy
I sacrifice trophy from self in order to chase trophy from others
desire for esteem by others
so codependent...

sociocultural self is the chameleon self
but, unlike chameleon who only change when self defense
we forget that about the chameleon
we suffer when we change
this extend to who we marry, what we think and what we should feel
there is a dynamic conflict between the individual and sociocultural self
we experience anger when we experience parts of individual and sociocultural
it's rebellion
this is a process of adapting to environment

one hand clap

you know the sound of two hands clap, what is the sound of one hand clap?
there is only two hands clap when there is "on the other hand"

epigenetics

The role of epigenetics is functionary and the biological study is.........

The terrestrial biological phenomenon is an energetic phenomenon which is auto-catalytic (i.e. it reproduces itself through nonlinear, biophysical and biochemical self-accelerated processes), and also autopoietic (i.e. it constantly redefines itself, supporting and reproducing itself in its interior). Biological systems are thermodynamically open, transient energetic systems, free to exchange energy and matter with the environment. Their very existence depends on an ability and capacity to make the most of a suitable (biocompatible) external energy source.

The progenitors of all biological systems were specific auto-catalytic organic molecular systems (Ageno’s lipid envelopes) which gave rise to protocells (biological evolution is the history of the integration and individualisation processes undergone by the biochemical and biophysical relationships which define a biological organism).

The protocell is a nonlinear, dynamic system that is more individualised (defined, localised) and more integrated (variable complexity in information processing and reporting) than an organic molecular system. The evolution of protocells gave rise to cells.

A cell is a reticular system of nonlinear sub-energetic/energetic biophysical processes at a phase limit between chaos and order. These processes govern the generation of integrated biochemical relationships, which in turn give rise to a reticular system of atomic/supra-atomic structures, organised in such a way as to form a structural and functional unit which is well defined and delimited by a membrane.
As a whole, the cell is an energetic system which is more efficient and more productive than any of its structures or processes taken singularly. In general, a cell is an energy system governed by nonlinear biochemical and biophysical relationships, which are more stable and more integrated than those which define a protocell, whose dynamic is in turn more stable and more integrated than organic molecular systems.

Cellular energy balance is the central factor around which the entire cellular dynamic revolves: if, during the time and space of its existence, the biological system is able to achieve an adequate energy gain, then its adaptability and its phylogenetic continuity will have a good probability of fulfilling themselves, but if this energy gain is not assured, the system may be doomed to mutation or extinction1.
To avoid extinction and to survive, all biological systems, from the simplest to the most complex, utilize and develop two types of closely interrelated and interdependent energetic/adaptive strategies:
- one tends to adapt the system to the unconditional variations imposed by its surroundings (the force of gravity and the earth’s magnetic field, the terrestrial geo-climatic macro-system, cosmological changing relationships, geological eras, cyclic weather and climate events, etc.).

- the other tends to adapt the variables conditioned by its surroundings to the system’s need for survival (conformation of the land, underwater environments, the atmosphere, the availability of bio-compatible energy resources, etc.).

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Claudio Messori • Environmental, spatial and temporal variability represents the scenario the energetic/adaptive biodynamic has to cope with. For survival purposes this means that energetic/adaptive strategies:
- cannot rely on linear processes (feedback loops) of problem solving, which lack information and limit the system’s tolerance to environmental pressure, but instead must turn the solutions into problems (feed-forward) by exploiting the nonlinearity of natural processes, which is rich in information (capacity to generate interference) and in a position to guarantee the system functional plasticity and structural tolerance (the nonlinear - fractal – the turning of solutions into problems is the motor behind learning and is contextualized through it),

- cannot exist as independent facts severed from the context, but must exist as facts dependent upon the contest, since they are a part of it and of its dynamic (dependency on environmental variation induces biological variation which goes to producing ecosystems).

One of the many variables which accompany the diversification of biological systems is the different proportion between the degree of adaptive pressure exerted by the system on the environment, and the pressure exerted by the environment on the system.

Clearly, extreme environmental conditions, such as the ones on our planet more than three billion years ago, imposed rigid limitations on the formation and survival of proto-biological systems. Also because of this, the planet we inhabit today has been populated by colonies of the same category of unicellular marine organisms, (chemo-magnetic-photo-synthetic prokaryotes) for hundreds of millions of years.

After around three billion years, the level of their adaptive pressure on the environment, the evolution of forms of energy transfer, the production and exploitation of biocompatible energy, and the huge release of gaseous oxygen into the atmosphere, allowed the biological phenomenon to make a phylogenetically epochal bifurcation (the third after those of the passage from organic molecular systems to protocells, and from protocells to cells). With the Cambrian Era this bifurcation marked a decisive turning point in the history of the evolution of strategies destined to fulfil energy needs: genotypic and phenotypic diversification (cell differentiation), and with it the formation of multi-cellular organisms.

Until the Cambrian Era, biological evolution revolved around the development of biochemical and biophysical strategies, aimed at fulfilling energy requirements. From the Cambrian onwards a new solution amongst energy requirements started to sketch a second way for the biological colonisation of our Planet Earth: adaptation by a huge diversification of behavioural strategies.
Every evolutionary bifurcation is marked by the availability of a surplus of expendable energy for the diversification and/or integration of processes which govern the fulfilment of energy and/or adaptive requirements.

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Claudio Messori • The formation of multi-cellular organisms during the Cambrian contextualized an extraordinary passage:
- from a territorial model of ecosystem organisation (whose protagonists were whole clusters of unicellular organisms distributed over one or more areas, linked by a common adaptive and bio-energetic gain) to an ecosystem organisation multi-cellular model, whose protagonists were cell colonies, specialised and joined by a common structural, functional link, defined and identified in the construction of a tissue;

- from a territorial model of the unit behaviour of whole groups of cells (where individual behaviour was prescribed by the group and described by a unanimous dynamic, such as we may observe in our own time in the synchronised movements of certain schools of fish, flocks of birds, communities of ants or termites, swarms of bees, etc.), to the tissue model, where organs and systems of organs operate in synchrony for the survival and unity of the system.

The biological unit (cell), from being a composed, integrated system delimited (membrane) by a multitude of sub-cellular structures and molecular units, became an integrated cellular ecosystem (multi-cellular organism), consisting of differentiated cells, specialised according to the role and function they must play to be a choral unit.
Between the Cambrian and the lower Palaeolithic, biological diversity went through an initial upward motion and then gradually descended to a point of stillness (Jurassic).
The first appearance of the human species may be dated to recent times (4 to 5 million years ago), a period characterised by a stable equilibrium which was self-regulating and in a position to respond efficiently to environmental pressure, between a biological macro-system governed by biochemical and biophysical strategies aimed at fulfilling energy requirements, and a biological macro-system governed by the diversification of behavioural strategies aimed at adaptation.
With the human species an amazing new phylogenetic bifurcation was to take shape.
The animal Homo is an omnivore with a particularly versatile pharyngeal tract, featuring four limbs of which only two are used for travelling, while the other two are free for manipulative functions. Its peculiar imitative and psycho-perceptual skills (perception being the prerequisite for the internal representation of external reality) make it stand apart from other animals .

The animal of the genus Homo is able to mimic ecosystem dynamics, and also to translate them into psycho-perceptual images (imaginific function), to return to imitation and so on, in a relational, homo-systemic process, which deviates from the level of a behavioural stereotype towards its completion. It deviates from the level of conditioned reactions to a level of emotional response, from an imitation of a codified level to a codification of imitation. It deviates from terms of developing adaptive strategies to that of development of over-adaptive strategies, until it deviates from the imaginific plane to the plane of symbols and meanings, which after thousands of generations of tottering bipeds made them believe they were powerful enough to enter into open competition with Nature of which they are part, and as a consequence in competition with one another.

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Claudio Messori • From the late Palaeolithic (about 50,000 to 40,000 years ago) onwards, the worm of the will to power crept into the imagery of human communities, influencing for better and worse all behavioural strategies of an over-adaptive kind, which future generations would come to use in their relationship with the world.

The twentieth century was the century of major scientific revolutions, triggered by quantum mechanics (which profoundly changed what we know about matter) and of Einstein's general theory of relativity (which radically changed what we know about time and space), in addition to a growing interest in the study of nonlinear dynamic systems (which changed what we know of the dynamics of physical phenomena), resulting in the introduction of epistemological and methodological tools that revolutionised the study of the extremely small and the extremely large. Results deriving from their application and the open scenarios in the interpretation of reality to which we belong, have had a significant impact outside of their areas of membership too (high energy physics, astrophysics, mathematics), substantially affecting also the standard vision of the world (creationist and positivist), including that of biological and mental phenomena.

The fields of biology and neuroscience, quantum and quantum-relativistic models, together with the Science of Chaos (the study of nonlinear dynamical systems of a chaotic kind), suggest new proposals and pose new questions about what is meant by life, consciousness and brain function, tracing horizons unthinkable even a few decades ago.
The indispensable and distinctive prerequisite for the implementation of supra-adaptive dynamics (epigenetic) of the genus Homo, is its neurological (tele-encephalic dependent) and psycho-perceptual specificity (perceiving is a more integrated function than feeling, which is more integrated than reacting, which is more integrated than mental excitability), a specificity from whose interactions with the environment, the mental fact results.

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henry wijata • @Claudio, Thank you. This is the reason why I join LinkedIn discussion, to learn something new.

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Claudio Messori • To date, the biochemistry of biological phenomena has played a central role in defining what is meant by biologically alive, without being able to truly understand the causal relation between organic and inorganic, between physical and psychical, between the inanimate and animate world of biological life. The attention reserved to biochemical relationships presents the living system as a product of a complex combination of chemical reaction between atoms, molecules, and systems of molecules, powered by a dense network of energy transfers, whose function would ensure enough fuel to operate the machine....of the living. On the contrary, if we want to find answers to our questions, we can no longer be content to consider energy as the ability of a system to perform work, since we cannot avoid considering the relationship between the energetic (charge) level, and sub-energetic (Spin) level, and the annexed biophysical processes, as the relationship which presides over the in-formation and transformation of the living, like the territory of the syntropic carrier (inducer of order and coherence) around which the dynamic of the living orbits.......... more at: Messori Claudio, "Cells, Neurons, and Qualia: The Holographic Strange Attractor Model", Journal of Consciousness Exploration and Research, 2011. Online: [http://www.jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/view/163 ]

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Feelings

@Dr. Michael, Thank you for the response. No, it was not what I was saying. Emotions is unconscious and biological. The word "unconscious" just means we are not aware of it just like we are not aware of the flow of our blood. Emotional reaction is biological means there is a change in biological movement (heart rate, muscle tension, skin temperature) to something. Emotions doesn't become feelings because they are two different "things". Emotions is a biological reaction (emotional reaction) where feeling is how we "interpret and label" our experience of the reaction. They don't become conscious but it's something we can experience thru our internal senses. The subjective experience of emotions is feelings. Emotions doesn't dissapear when being awared just like heart beats doesn't dissapear when being awared. It is like with our visual experience, our eyes move all the time reacting and scanning our environment (this is emotion), but we focus on selective visual experience that we call "seeing" (this is feeling).

Emotion reacts to stimuli, including audio stimuli such as music. We usually say "music affects our emotion". If the music feels pleasant, "I like it". Since feeling is only label and interpretation of emotional reaction, MUSIC DOESN'T AFFECT FEELING. Music doesn't affect feelings just like we can't verbally ask a person "Could you get angry with me?" They will look at us like we are crazy. But, we can give them something to get angry about. That something is the stimuli that emotion reacts to. So, music affects emotion. The how part is another question. THat's what the excellent article that Imhe provided tried to answer.

Having said all that, we do have experience with music, listening or creating, for the sensation or feelings of the emotional reaction to it. There is an interaction between the sound and the cognitive-emotional reaction that triggers our reward system when we listen to a music we like. This is like smoking. It is not the nicotine that some people are addicted to. They are addicted to the pleasant sensation as the result of interaction between chemical in the nervous system and the chemical in the ciggarettes. They are addicted to the feelings they get. Our experience is music is similar in a way that what we like is the feelings we get as the result of interaction between our nervous system and the sound that we hear.

Forrest

A tree fall into a forrest, if there is no one to hear a sound, does it make a sound?

reality is logically inferred with or without perception
abstract imagination is inferrence
of unknown based on the known
we don't know either one of the sound with or without the hearing
mind is nothing but logical infference
and played like drama
and it s called world and life

what do I think about this? What does others think about this?

everything is good enough and why bother
nothing is important
it's all good
not my problem
observe to recover?
training for the mind?

I just realize my passive nature
my blindspot all my life
how I just take whatever come my way
and adjust myself to environment
change myself to please others
huge "self" to manipulate
and process and try to understand
with no defense and no participation
no interaction before processing
external locus of control
is helpless and accept things as they are
play victim stance
not fighting and try to please others
making self feels better by produce own pleasure
or avoid negative situation and manipulate others to be happy
afraid to make ripples or to take risks
just being passive and take whatever is given
not accepting self in order to accept others
sacrificing self for others
sacrificing self to be safe and to be loved

whiteboard 7/26/13

THE WORLD DOES NOT NEED TO BE SOLVED
THE WORLD IS PERFECT AND ALWAYS IS
LIKE A CHILD WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE FAMILY BECAUSE HE DOES NOT YET UNDERSTAND
AND GROWS UP TO APPRECIATE THE BEAUTY AND WISDOM OF THE FAMILY AS HE GETS OLDER THAT THE BEAUTY AND WISDOM OF THE FAMILY IS GREATER THAN HE IS.

THE WORLD IS ALWAYS PERFECT
OUR THOUGHT AND EXPECTATION IS THE ONE NEEDS TO ADJUST TO IT

STRESS LIKE THOUGHT IS EMPTY ENERGY (PSYCHOLOGICAL)
BUT IT TRIGGERS EMOTION FOR ACTION, BUT THERE IS NO ACTION
IT STILL DEMAND REPLACEMENT --> OBESITY

FALSE THOUGHT - DUKKA
RIGHT THOUGHT - SUKA
SUKA ADALAH FAKTOR PENUNGGANG
LEAVING FALSE THOUGHT, RIGHT THOUGHT APPEAR

LEPAS GAS
PENGALAMAN BATIN

KARMA PASSIVE - BACKGROUND
PIKIRAN EMOSI ADALAH KERETA GANDENG

MEMORY - CONSCIOUS COMPETENCE (PRIDE) AND INCOMPETENCE (SUFFERING)

INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT WORD THAT ONLY HAS 1 MEANING, WE SHOULD SEE THE CONTEXT AND SEE THE WAY IT IS.
INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WORLD THAT DOESN'T FIT OUR DESCRIPTION, WE SHOULD SEE THE WAY IT IS AND USE NO DESCRIPTION

CRY NOW THAT YOU DON'T CRY LATER
FIGHT NOW THAT YOU DON'T FIGHT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE (FOR VICTIM)

DESCRIPTION OF AN OBJECT IS AN INTENTIONAL MEANING
THE OBJECT IS THE EXTENTIONAL MEANING
DOES THE INTENTIONAL MEANING MATCH THE EXTENTIONAL MEANING?
DOES THE DESCRIPTION PASS THE REALITY TEST?

trigger

I like to read, to watch, to think about something, to fantasize and to talk about something
what do they have in common? they are object and content and they have meaning
they trigger sense of pleasure
they take me away from sensory direct experience

discipline and acceptance is opposite
like acceptance and not acceptance
we tend to accept the health, non problematic
and not to accept non healthy and problematic
it's a preference
discipline is to make it happen
discipline is not natural
natural discipline is natural behavior
discipline often times rigid social control

anxiety or pain, such as in xtreme activities or self harm behavior, trigger natural "painkiller"
this is why we seek anxiety and sabotage our life to manipulate our body to produce this pleasure.
it is a compulsion
we seek misery for the reward
we raise the ante from time to time
we can't sleep without the pleasure and to produce the pleasure we must feel the pain first.

Discipline

Is discipline the opposite of acceptance? criticism and order as the opposite of letting?

there is no argument of reports
we argue inference and especially fight judgements

forgiving mistakes of others and self

addiction to external mind objects for pleasure and anxiety

love

Love is passive reciprocical reaction (it doesn't have to be social, but it is reciprocial). It is not about "to love" but as "being loved". Social love occurs in interpersonal environment where reciprocal can happens in interpersonal but also intrapersonal environment. (I may agree with you here that love may have no external object, but love always have objects. This is what I mean by non preferential/partial in earlier post.). I will argue that all experience have a reciprocial relationship between the behavior, mental, and feelings. This reciprocial relationship makes an experience. We have an experience and we tell a quality of the experience with feelings, a "sense of love". Like you said earlier when I ask you how you tell if you are in oneness, you feel it all over your body. That's called feelings.

Feelings is the most important among the three (Suffering is nothing but feelings. Enlightenment is the absence of afflictive emotions or sufferings like darkness is the absence of light. There is no such thing as darkness like there is no such thing as suffering). This feeling is what "love" people talk about. It's the sense of love we have, positive or negative.  The problem with attachment based love is the presence of negative/afflictive emotion/feeling that comes when the object of our love leaves or gives the love to another, the thorns of the roses.

This is the most important part. Feelings is reactive. It tells us not how much we love but how much we are loved. The so called "social needs" is our needs of being loved, accepted, and approved. Afflictive social emotions, such as grief, tells us about the loss of love coming our way. Jealousy tells us about missing the love that goes somewhere else. The world focuses on the active loving of others, but that's not what we need. Like we must be fed with food, we must be loved first. Our feelings tells us how much love we receive. For example, in romantic love, I like a person. During courting, my sense of love will go up and down based on how much she likes me. All my feeling care about is not how I love, but how much I was loved/she loved me. If all I care about is "I like her", my feelings will not go "roller coaster" on me.

WHat's the problem with conditioned attachment based love? Our sense of love depended on/conditioned on external objects of our love that may change mind, that may dissapear, that we have no control over. Afflictive emotions only shows up when we don't get what we need, just like hunger.
In conditioned attachment based love, there is dissapointment because our sense of love depended on external locus of control. We feel happy when they care and we don't when they don't.

Due to the frustration of the conditioned attachment based love or for some people who got hurt or deprived of their love needs, they say there must be other ways. They go inside. Remember the passivity, it is not about loving the self, that would be narcissistic. The narcissist who love the self has the same problems with people who has compulsion in loving others, they just turn it to himself. They are denying their needs to be loved or experiencing past severe neglect of being loved, that they must do it themselves to love themselves.
It is about "being loved by the self". This takes a high level of vulnerability/intimacy and level of trust with oneself that it's spiritual. It takes high level of openmindedness to listen to oneself. The language people use usually "be with oneself". There is sense of freedom just to be without any conditions and I have all I need to be happy. Some people even reach ecstassy from the joy that they are free. At this level, we are speaking about mystical experience where words sound wierd trying to explain it. Some people talk about "making love to God", "bride/groom with the beloved". There is a high level of intoxication feeling present from the sense of love but without dissapointments. At this level, language breaks down because it is not needed.

Meditation and Sleeping

Is fall into meditation like falling asleep?
meditation is not sleeping
during sleep, bodies sleep and only higher mind awake
when meditate, bodies and lower mind awake and higher mind asleep
when awake, they all awake
but how we enter into it
the sleepiness trance

Einstein

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?

Student : Absolutely, sir.

Professor : Is GOD good ?

Student : Sure.

Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?

Student : Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

(Student was silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Is satan good ?

Student : No.

Professor: Where does satan come from ?

Student : From … GOD …

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student : Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?

Student : Yes.

Professor: So who created evil ?

(Student did not answer.)

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student : Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them ?

(Student had no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?

Student : No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?

Student : No , sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?

Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student : Yes.

Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.

Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student : And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student : No, sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)

Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?

Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?

Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.

Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)

Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class was in uproar.)

Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class broke out into laughter. )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

P.S.

I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?

Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.

By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.